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  • #736030 Reply

    Bob LeDrew

    Thoughts? https://kitchissippiward.ca/content/enough-enough-infill-construction-woes

    An excerpt: “Residents of Kitchissippi are largely resigned to infill. Most of us grit our teeth, accommodate as best we can the builders, try to establish clear lines of communication and hope that we’ll be treated with respect.

    But when things go wrong, we need better tools to deal with that.

    Starting today, I’m calling on builders and their advocacy group the Greater Ottawa Home Builders Association to put an end to the needlessly thoughtless and disrespectful behaviour that all too often characterizes infill projects.

    We need an alternative to the courts. We need a body that can sanction bad builders, and recognize good. We need to give residents new agency and a voice in how infill construction affects their quality of life. Responsibility for that cannot fall entirely to the taxpayer.”

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    #736032 Reply

    Ken Gray
    Keymaster

    Bob:

    I can hear the developers laughing from here.

    And what kind of sanctions are going on? Please don’t do that again or I’ll slap your wrist.

    It will sound good at election time but it’s not about to stop anything.

    And good news, we’ve resigned ourselves to infill. Twenty-five storey towers in residential areas, too?

    This is election garbage trying to make it look as though politicians are trying to do the responsible thing.

    For most of council, the responsible thing would be to resign.

    cheers

    kgray

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    #736033 Reply

    Ken Gray
    Keymaster

    Bob:

    One other point. The former head of the homebuilders association called me a communist.

    Yes a communist who worked in the private sector his whole life and made his money through investments.

    More Warren Buffett I’m afraid than Karl Marx.

    Now you see the attitude you’re dealing with.

    cheers

    kgray

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    #736036 Reply

    EajD

    One of the most effective ways to stop bad behaviour is to shine a light on it.
    Leveraging the GOHBA’s rhetoric about how responsible they are is worth a try.

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    #736039 Reply

    Ken Gray
    Keymaster

    Good point, EajD.

    Now where has Leiper been when all this has been going on?

    Why hasn’t Leiper been on his soap box with the press on this so the public knows there’s a problem?

    Why wasn’t Leiper been fighting 25-storey buildings until it was too late? You know he can use the press to his advantage. Instead he picks fights with the press. If he wants to know how to use the press, just ask Jim Watson.

    Leiper has let the city spend $3.2 billion too much on light rail with much worse results than the old plan. Put the line down the Macdonald Parkway (tunnelled) when Carling was the best plan. Not a whimper from him.

    Leiper is supposed to be the reformer … the liberal. Where has he been?

    Putting bike lanes on Spencer. Good grief.

    A big disappointment. He talks a better game than his predecessor Hobbs but has produced about the same. Leiper just sounds better doing it.

    cheers

    kgray

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    #736047 Reply

    Interested reader

    Making a well established and thought out long term picture of the city is a starting point but only if the plan is followed to the letter. Buying property and then coming to the city to get an exemption then going to the O.M.B. is crazy.

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    #736054 Reply

    Ron Benn

    Interested reader, welcome to the new alchemy, where a developer buys land at a low price, applies for rezoning, and presto, the same land has a much higher value.

    The recipe is relatively straight forward.

    1. Start with some seed capital.
    2. Retain the services of well-connected advisers who know how to influence decisions in the planning department.
    3. Make a few well placed campaign contributions, or if you are feeling adventurous, host a fund-raiser or two during an election campaign.
    4. Stay in contact with your new found friends in the council chamber.

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    #736059 Reply

    Bob LeDrew

    This isn’t really the case in our neighbourhood, where zoning isn’t an issue (minor variances are sometimes needed but rarely denied), and the land is not really “low price” land.

    And (full disclosure: I was a volunteer on the Leiper campaign), Leiper is one councillor who doesn’t accept developer $. Although I’m sure Ken will tell us that he is responsible for everything from light rail to the heartbreak of psoriasis.

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    #736064 Reply

    Ken Gray
    Keymaster

    Bob:

    Now Robert, I know he doesn’t take developer money for his campaign.

    Good for him.

    You’ll remember I endorsed Leiper during the last campaign.

    Ever since then he has cried about me being inaccurate about what he says, said he wasn’t going to talk to me anymore and been an all-round pain.

    All the while we don’t hear him talking about smart heights for condos.

    He supported this stupid Phase 2 of light rail and its monstrous too-high cost and a line for that cost not getting to Barrhaven and Kanata. Terrible. And I’m a supporter of light rail in general, just not this Mercedes line.

    And he supported putting a tunnel down a park when Carling was the correct way to go.

    But to make a main point … doesn’t this guy know who his friends are? The baby needs a soother.

    cheers

    kgray

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    #736066 Reply

    Ron Benn

    Bob, in the new alchemy, low cost is a relative term. The recipe works if the initial cost of the land plus the costs of getting the rezoning completed are materially less than the new value. To illustrate, the cost of assembling four adjacent single family homes at an average of $750K = $3MM in total cost. Add another $100K to cover the cost of the rezoning, and the all in cost is $3.1MM. The value of the land has increased dramatically, based on the potential to erect a 20+ storey tower with 150 or 160 units, where the average selling price per unit is >$600K.

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